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You got downvoted because you posted an honest description of your own state of mind in a feminism thread. It happens elsewhere as well, not just on HN. Eventually, you learn to just avoid participating in those conversations. Never mind downvoting for individual disagreement; on certain topics you will be downvoted for disturbing the acoustics of the echo chamber.

Mammalian brains are hard-wired to notice reproductively relevant physical features first. Retraining your brain to notice anything else is fighting against the thousands of generations of sexual selection that occurred before civilization was even invented. The major problem is that there are no outward physical signs of outstanding competence in your niche of economic specialization, so no effective competition to displace "Wow, that body looks like it would be great for assuring the survival and prosperity of my potential offspring."

You cannot wish it away. You can't guilt people into not doing it. It will simply continue as long as our brains are still subjected to the mind-altering chemicals that testicles and ovaries typically produce. You are not a bad person for thinking such things.

But, of course, now that civilization has been invented, and we have developed values beyond simple babymaking, it would be inappropriate to speak or act until well after you have engaged the areas of the brain responsible for either rationality or empathy for at least a few seconds first, and possibly both. The proportion of people who actually think before speaking or doing is still depressingly low, and that is why we see stories like this.



The major problem is that there are no outward physical signs of outstanding competence in your niche of economic s specialization

Expensive tailored suit, fist-bitingly expensive wristwatch, huge house in an expensive area, very new luxury car... I could go on and on.


That only works for business management and financial services, and possibly politicians. A grandmaster potter and glazer is not going to look like that. A grandmaster soil bacteriologist is not going to look like that. A grandmaster oil painter is not going to look like that. The best butcher on the entire planet might not have a hundredth as much money as the most useless hotel heir.

Besides that, your house, car, and clothing does not leave an indelible and unfalsifiable mark on your outward appearance. Expensive decorations can be faked, borrowed, or stolen. Even if the balance of your bank account appeared as a birthmark across your forehead, ownership of resources is not always a sign of competence. Wealth can be inherited or acquired by chance.

Now, the first thought in your head when seeing someone might be "she's got huge... tracts of land!" But that will probably be because you live in a swamp.


> Expensive tailored suit, fist-bitingly expensive wristwatch, huge house in an expensive area, very new luxury car... I could go on and on.

Yeah. Right. Because there is no such thing as credit.

People that display expensive things don't project outstanding competence. They project just that they value displaying expensive things.

And that's usually something (I just speak from my experience) that inversely correlates with thoughtfulness and competence.




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