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Exactly. Nobody expects the welfare office to be self sufficient, what are they gonna do, charge all the recipients?

But a mail and parcel service, something that the private sector does profitably, shouldn't be deeply in the red though a little from time to time is probably fine.



On the other hand though, if the private parcel service had to fund 40 years of pensions instead of giving out 401k's, and were obligated to serve unprofitable routes, they'd be deeply in the red. It's not a remotely level playing field, so it's no wonder the government parcel service is having problems.


I wouldn't consider the USPS to be deeply in the red when compared with other government operations.


deeply in the red is your phrase, not mine


> It's not a remotely level playing field

What's causing the unlevel playing field?


Various acts of Congress that force them to take on a huge amount of debt and force them to run unprofitable routes. A private company has no such requirements.


Oh yes, true, the Post Office in the UK has the same burden. I more meant the pensions.


It costs 15x as much to use a private sector mail service as the USPS.


I can imagine it would cost a bit more, because corporation tax, and you probably can't afford to run a year where you lose $8.8bn[0].

Although I thought USPS had an enforced monopoly on US mail, so how did you do the comparison with private sector mail?

[0] https://about.usps.com/newsroom/national-releases/2019/1114-...


I looked up the cost to FedEx an envelope to somewhere in the US. Looks like $10 is about standard (unless you want to go too far or too rural). The USPS will send an envelope anywhere for $0.74. 10/0.74 = 13.5x

The USPS has a monopoly on traditional delivery to a mailbox. So FedEx walks all the way to the door which makes it not "traditional delivery"


> The USPS has a monopoly on traditional delivery to a mailbox. So FedEx walks all the way to the door which makes it not "traditional delivery"

Sometimes I find Amazon packages in my mailbox, though I know sometimes amazon will use USPS, so could just be them.




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