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Was interested, especially aiming to by language agnostic, then immediately not when I see all communications are exclusively via proprietary platforms.

> Choosing proprietary tools and services for your free software project ultimately sends a message to downstream developers and users of your project that freedom of all users—developers included—is not a priority.

— Matt Lee

This means if Discord or Microsoft (parent of GitHub) or Twitter (I guess) decide to delete or ban your account, you are by proxy banned from the project, Lunatic; this means Lunatic is not in control of the moderation of its community. This also requires all users must give up personal data to the corporations in order to participate. This also further drives a wedge between those that prefer the spirit of open source not just in the style of communication, but those that want it in the tools used to create it as well.

This project isn’t the only or first offender, but it’s frustrating seeing this pattern pop up over and over and it needs to be called out every time. People care about their privacy more than ever. Interest in OSS has never been higher.

We just witnessed yet another exodus off Twitter for federated plaforms like Mastodon and other platforms because folks don’t want to deal with the whims of megacorporations. Everytime Microsoft or Microsoft GitHub make another questionable move, projects seek refuge on Codeberg/SourceHut/GitLab, or self-hosting. There are a non-negligible amount of folks that don’t want this.



It is MIT licensed so one could host their copy or fork entirely elsewhere. It's available as a Rust crate, which doesn't seem to have the issues that concern you. The Discord part is a little harder to address. Contributing back to the code upstream could be difficult. Projects have moved before when corporate hosts proved problematic for either the maintainers or enough users, such as the exodus from Sourceforge. I have no doubt if Discord, Github, or Twitter become issues the project could move elsewhere, possibly to a private Gitea and to Mastodon. Right now, though, the maintainers are probably happy to use these services and not worry about maintaining production servers for it.


Use them, sure. Suppport them, sure. But require them, nah. Vendor lock on them, nah too.


So you're suggesting that the maintainers should fragment their community by officially supporting Mastodon and Discord and GitHub and GitLab?


The community and their own time dealing with said community would both be fragmented. I have a feeling what they most want to do in maintaining the project is to spend time maintaining the project, not the infrastructure for distributing and supporting it.


They can at a bare minimum point to say an IRC #room on Libera.Chat and say it's unofficial, so folks can know where to congregate. In the case of Mastodon or other Fediverse, make that the official and have that forward to Twitter if you cared. GitLab (which isn't the only alternative Git forge) itself lets you add to merge requests via patches and emails--along with supporting automatic mirroring. You can make one just a read-only archive. You can also just support two platforms--or drop the problematic proprietary one.


How often do people get banned from GitHub for reasons anyone would disagree with? (besides projects that are targeted for DMCA, but you seen to be talking about personal accounts being unable to participate in the community of an open source project)




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