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How is that appeal to sovereignty not a charge you could level at any treaty? Isn't that more or less the definition of a treaty?


No. Historically, a trade treaty is a bilateral agreement on the regulation of goods.

It's not about internal politics, or at least it shouldn't be. And it certainly is not about controlling the actions of one nation's industry inside other nations.


Could you be more specific about the word "historical", so we can see how easily falsified that argument is? Give us a time period, and then we can go look at a bunch of treaties and see the extent to which they're specifically about goods.

It would also be helpful if you could define "goods".

If we find examples of similarly intrusive agreements in older treaties, will you be prepared to concede the argument?


Looks like I won't even have to: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_Clause#Repeal

Congress can modify or repeal treaties by subsequent legislative action, even if this amounts to a violation of the treaty under international law

So no, treaties do not affect US national sovereignty. Appeal to sovereignty is a charge you can not level at any treaty from inside the USA.


Are we arguing the same thing, then?




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